Subject	Recently Iran said it will close the Strait of Hormuz.
Posted by	not4resaleZ on December 29, 2011 at 4:09 PM
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In Reply To	EthaNo~Say No To E-15 posted by BoneZ (MD) on December 29, 2011 at 02:28 PM
Message	The US will spend more this year to protect oil shipping lanes than was spent on ethanol subsidies since 1980. A lot more. Princeton University estimates taxpayers have spent $7.2 trillion over the last 30 years to protect shipping routes around the Persian Gulf.
Follow Ups	EthaNo~Say No To E-15 - BoneZ (MD) 14:28:03 12/29/11 Not really the facts, but more oil company propaganda. - not4resaleZ 15:47:19 12/29/11 Recently Iran said it will close the Strait of Hormuz. - not4resaleZ 16:09:26 12/29/11 Here is a link. - not4resaleZ 16:16:31 12/29/11 Just fear tactic - ZXRider 17:21:33 12/29/11 Re: Just fear tactic - njz 17:29:12 12/29/11 Because, you might upset a fragile hippie douche. (n/m) - sandmanz32 17:32:08 12/29/11 Also know as the smug people (n/m) - njz 17:39:50 12/29/11 Its been working so well for us... (n/m) - dpjax 18:03:06 12/29/11 drilling at home dosn't mean prices will go down - Halo TTZ 18:21:06 12/29/11 Exactly, we could nationalize our oil companies and make - not4resaleZ 20:49:24 12/29/11 That is not true at all. Drilling at home may or may not - zfan21 21:58:25 12/29/11 The Texas panhandle is large enough to fuel our vehicles. - not4resaleZ 22:39:21 12/29/11 ...if corn was the only way to produce ethanol. Its not. (n/m) - ZiNnYc 03:27:18 12/30/11 the oil we produce would still be traded on the - slayer fan 11:36:56 12/30/11 Nationalize? Are you from Venezuela? (n/m) - njz 22:01:36 12/29/11 It's a crazy idea. No argument here. (n/m) - not4resaleZ 22:12:14 12/29/11 Welcome home. (n/m) - njz 22:23:52 12/29/11 I was using a fear tactic. :) (n/m) - not4resaleZ 22:59:25 12/29/11 no (n/m) - LJZTT 07:03:17 12/30/11 Well, we've already nationalized the oil companies, - zellamay 12:31:55 12/30/11 2nd. (n/m) - Halo TTZ 13:32:07 12/30/11 Truth - ConVerTT 18:26:19 12/30/11 Thinking those two situations are the same is ludicrous. - Dustin 19:46:50 12/30/11 Not so different. Recent history shows our military - zellamay 20:30:46 12/30/11 Re: Not so different. Recent history shows our military - Dustin 21:02:30 12/30/11 So your difference is based on which population we use - zellamay 22:52:40 12/30/11 That's exaclty right. - Dustin 01:10:55 01/01/12 Capitalism rules, as an economic society. The big question - zellamay 10:16:39 01/01/12 We are drilling at home, and have been for a long time. - zellamay 22:30:46 12/29/11 We have about reached the limit with corn ethanol, but - not4resaleZ 22:52:55 12/29/11 This is the right answer ^ (n/m) - Jayru 23:26:14 12/29/11 That was meant for Zellamay ^ - Jayru 23:31:35 12/29/11 Fracing like crazy around here - Halo TTZ 02:10:47 12/30/11 You have hit the nail right on the head - RobZ32 09:58:59 12/30/11 At least for the past 6 year we have had a plan that is - not4resaleZ 10:21:03 12/30/11 A few facts: 1. There is enough wind power to provide all - zellamay 10:09:21 12/30/11 But what can you do TODAY. - not4resaleZ 10:43:42 12/30/11 personal wind and solar are here TODAY - Antihero 11:22:21 12/30/11 Well sort of - OverZealous (CT) 11:49:50 12/30/11 On average, wind is very predictable. If wind power q - zellamay 12:28:17 12/30/11 I agree, but many on this site don't have the money or - not4resaleZ 11:53:23 12/30/11 Today, what we can do is VOTE!..and become aware and active. - zellamay 12:18:59 12/30/11 Yes, and read a few Robert Reich editorials. (n/m) - not4resaleZ 12:34:52 12/30/11 Today we can buy Hybrid and Electric cars as DDs! - OverZealous (CT) 10:02:48 12/31/11 I have a hard time believing wind power can solve all of our - aliaZ 16:10:53 12/30/11 I don't know that wind power can solve all our needs. - zellamay 16:57:05 12/30/11 One obstacle to overcome with wind power is the perceived - aliaZ 17:10:44 12/30/11 Birds running into 300 mph propeller blades is a problem... - OverZealous (CT) 09:31:26 12/31/11 Same here. - SimaYi 18:51:17 12/30/11 What did your research say about nuclear fuel running out? - madscientist222 21:42:17 12/30/11 It was few years ago. - SimaYi 22:47:46 12/30/11 thorium FTW (n/m) - aliaZ 07:25:16 12/31/11 wind power is just not reliable enough. - Agent X 09:58:05 12/31/11 It seems like you are partially right, if one looks - zellamay 16:51:44 12/31/11 I do agree we've gotten ourselves in a bit of a mess - Agent X 20:51:29 12/31/11 I don't think the change will be drastic, but we should - zellamay 00:37:13 01/01/12 chuckle... I'm enjoying my 'dirty' 'unethical' oil up here - vorpalZ 22:43:47 12/29/11 yuck it up canuck, and prepare to be annexed. (n/m) - Adam (NoVA) 23:23:28 12/29/11 too late, Starbucks on every corner already :/ (n/m) - vorpalZ 23:27:04 12/29/11 Starbucks > Tim Horton~ Americano FTW! :P (n/m) - BoneZ (MD) 11:19:13 12/30/11 I disagree. (n/m) - MixManMash 12:37:31 12/30/11 And one of those provinces up there is not goin to have - zellamay 10:14:17 12/30/11 Applaud selling to the owner of the largest reserve on Earth - TriniTT 18:27:11 12/31/11 huh? - vorpalZ 22:13:47 12/31/11
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